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This is Scott, and it’s time for a bonus episode!
You’ve heard me talking about the Raw Audio episodes, and today you’ll hear a full, extra Raw Audio episode for yourself.
Here’s the deal. If you like the What Was That Like podcast, you’re welcome to support the show, and like a lot of podcasters, that’s done through Patreon. All the details are at WhatWasThatLike.com/support.
There are different levels of support, so you can do whatever you’re comfortable with. But if you sign up for $5 a month, you get access to all of the Raw Audio episodes. At the moment there are 27 of those, and Raw Audio 28 will be released later this month.
What you’ll hear in these episodes are actual 911 calls. There are no scripts, there are no actors or re-enactments. This is real life – the actual phone calls made right then when the emergency was happening. And I’ll also tell you the story that goes with it – who was involved, what happened, and how it turned out. Most Raw Audio episodes cover 3 different stories.
So today, in this extra bonus episode, you’ll hear 3 of those calls. If you decide you want to sign up and binge the other 27 episodes, you can do that at WhatWasThatLike.com/support.
So let’s get on with today’s show!
Scott
Nassau County, Florida, just outside of Jacksonville. This happened just earlier this month. On U.S Route 1, there was a Dodge Ram pickup truck driven by William Hale – there were 5 people in that truck. Also involved in this was Frank Allison who was driving a Nissan Murano SUV – the SUV had 3 people. Multiple witnesses saw these 2 vehicles speeding, driving erratically, and brake-checking each other. This is a call from one of the witnesses.
911 Operator
- What’s your emergency?
Man 1
I’m trying to get off here. We got a guy in a small SUV off the road. I mean, driving recklessly and slamming on brakes. I think they’re both hauling but–
911 Operator
Do you have a tag on them?
Man 1
I’m trying to get close and then–
911 Operator
Okay.
Man 1
They’re literally trying to run them off the damn road.
911 Operator
Do you want to leave your name or phone number?
Man 1
It doesn’t matter.
911 Operator
All right. What you have is in here. I’ll have a unit look out for them, okay?
Man 1
Yes, ma’am. He’s literally trying to run them off of that road.
911 Operator
Yeah, I have a unit. He’s just gone that way, so he should be able to catch him.
Man 1
Yes, ma’am.
911 Operator
All right, thank you.
Scott
At some point, William, who was driving the pickup truck, pulled up beside Frank who was driving the SUV and told him to pull over. Frank did not pull over. Instead, the passenger in Frank’s car flipped William the middle finger. Following that, a water bottle was thrown from William’s pickup truck into Frank’s SUV. This apparently enraged Frank because that’s when he pulled out his hand gun, fired a single shot into the pickup truck and sped off. William accelerated to go after him. Shortly thereafter, the family members in the backseat of the truck started freaking out because they realized that the bullet fired by Frank had struck William’s five year old daughter in the leg. William’s wife then called 911 to report that her daughter had been shot.
911 Operator
- What’s your emergency?
(Inaudible)
911 Operator
What’s going on?
(Inaudible)
911 Operator
Somebody’s shot?
William’s Wife
(Inaudible) He shot my daughter in the leg. We’re going down the road.
911 Operator
Where are you?
William’s Wife
I don’t know.
911 Operator
Alright. Let me see if I can find you. Are you still running down the road? Are you still moving?
(Inaudible)
911 Operator
Are you still moving?
(Inaudible)
911 Operator
Ma’am, I need you to talk to me. Ma’am. Ma’am! What happened?
William’s Wife
Please! He shot my daughter.
911 Operator
Who shot your daughter? How old is your daughter?
William’s Wife
- My daughter’s 5.
911 Operator
And she’s been shot?
William’s Wife
Yes. (Inaudible) My daughter has been shot! I don’t give a damn about them! I need the ambulance!
William
Where?!
911 Operator
Ma’am, can you hear me?
William’s Wife
Yes.
911 Operator
Hang on
Scott
Meanwhile, William was still chasing Frank’s SUV. You may have heard William’s wife shouting, “I don’t care about them! My daughter has been shot! I need the ambulance!” But William caught up with Frank anyway. Then, William pulled out his handgun and fired 7-8 bullets into the Nissan. One of those bullets hit Frank’s daughter, aged 14, who was in the backseat, causing her to have a collapsed lung. That girl’s mother then dialed 911.
911 Operator
- What’s your emergency?
Frank’s Wife
Help me. Please help me.
911 Operator
Yes, ma’am. I need your address. What is your address?
Frank’s Wife
I don’t know.
911 Operator
You don’t know where you’re at?
Frank’s Wife
No.
911 Operator
Are you okay?
Frank’s Wife
It’s okay, sweetie. (Inaudible) Yes, there’s a cop.
Frank
You’re alright?
Frank’s Wife
Yes.
Frank
(Inaudible)
911 Operator
Where are you at?
Scott
And Frank and William continued to speed down U.S. Route 1, each of them with a daughter in the backseat who had been shot. Eventually, they saw a Nassau County Sheriff’s Office patrol car and they stopped. But did either of these fathers do anything to attend to their daughter’s medical emergency? No. They got out of their vehicles and started fighting. The deputy broke up the fight and notified EMS about where to come. Both of the children were transported to a nearby hospital and were treated for non-life-threatening injuries. As for Frank and William, they were both arrested and each of them was charged with attempted murder in the second degree. The sheriff made a public statement recounting what happened and he closed with these remarks.
Nassau County Sheriff Bill Leeper
What is scarier than one crazy driver with a gun is two crazy drivers with a gun. Thankfully, no one was killed in this incident, but it could have very easily turned out that way because two people were acting stupid and letting their tempers get the best of them. There could have been two dead kids because of two stupid grown men.
Scott
Frank and William have each posted bail and are awaiting trial.
Scott
Gig Harbor, Washington. Deputy Allen Myron, 49 years old, worked for the Pierce County Sheriff’s Office for 11 years. By all accounts, he was good at law enforcement. There was only one complaint against him during that time for not being courteous during a police call. Recently, he had been injured in a physical altercation with a suspect and had been working light duty for a while. He’d also been having some family problems, so his wife’s father, Monty and his mother-in-law, Sue had come for a visit to see how they could help, but things went very wrong. Alan felt that his in-laws were just interfering in his marriage. One afternoon, Alan’s 15-year-old daughter was taking a nap in the apartment above their garage. She was awakened by hearing 2 gunshots. When she got up and looked out her bedroom door, she saw her father, Deputy Alan Myron, shoot her grandmother in the chest at close range with a handgun. Alan then told his daughter to leave the apartment with him. When they got outside, she saw her grandfather lying in the driveway. They then went back inside the main house. While they were inside the house, Sue, the grandmother, was able to get out of the garage apartment and make her way through the woods to a neighbor’s house where she collapsed in the yard. The neighbor quickly dialed 911
911 Operator
- What’s your emergency?
Man 2
I’d like to report a gunshot wound.
911 Operator
There was a gunshot? Where?
Man 2
Below her chest–
911 Operator
Okay, but where is she at? Was she shot on purpose or by accident?
Man 2
On purpose or by accident? Purpose.
911 Operator
Okay. Hold on. I’ll alarm the fire department. Where is the shooter at?
(Crosstalk)
911 Operator
The caller said that there’s a female who was shot.
Man 2
The female is shot. Her husband is shot as well.
911 Operator
Where at? Where is your husband?
Man 2
She doesn’t know. She came out of the back way. I can give you the address where the shot took place.
911 Operator
I need to know where the patients are.
Man 2
We need to know where your husband is. One patient is at (hidden information).
911 Operator
Is that a house, apartment, or a mobile home?
Man 2
A house.
911 Operator
Okay, how old is she?
Man 2
67.
911 Operator
Okay. Is she awake? She’s talking to you. Is she breathing?
Man 2
Yes. She is half sitting up supported by one arm.
911 Operator
Okay. Where was she shot?
Man 2
On her left side, probably, a little bit of her stomach, like–
911 Operator
What was she shot with?
Man 2
Some kind of a handgun.
911 Operator
When did this happen?
Man 2
Sometime in the last half hour.
911 Operator
Okay, in the last 30 minutes. Okay, I’m going to give you some instructions here in a minute. Right now, Melissa, please take over. Go ahead.
Man 2
Who is that?
911 Operator
Sir, do you know where she was when this occurred?
Man 2
(Hidden information)
911 Operator
And what’s the street number?
Man 2
(Hidden information) Deputy Myron’s house.
911 Operator
Deputy Myron’s house? Is she Deputy Myron’s wife?
Man 2
Mother-in-law.
911 Operator
Okay. Does she know who shot her?
Man 2
Deputy Myron.
911 Operator
She’s Deputy Myron’s mother-in-law?
Man 2
Yes.
911 Operator
And Deputy Myron shot her?
Man 2
Yes.
911 Operator
Is it Myren or Myron? M-Y-R-O-N?
Man 2
M-Y-R-O-N.
911 Operator
Okay, Do you know where Deputy Myron is?
Man 2
I do not.
911 Operator
Does she know?
Man 2
No, she doesn’t know. She said that he told her not to leave.
911 Operator
And she got away?
Man 2
Yes.
911 Operator
Did she leave in a car or on foot?
Man 2
She left on foot.
911 Operator
Who else is shot? Her husband?
Man 2
Her husband.
911 Operator
Okay, what about Deputy Myron’s wife?
Man 2
She’s at the hospital with her daughter.
911 Operator
Okay, where’s the father in law?
Man 2
She thinks that he’s in the driveway.
911 Operator
He’s in the driveway of your house?
Man 2
At Deputy Myron’s house.
911 Operator
Okay. Is there any way that I can talk to her?
Man 2
Yeah. Here.
Susan
Hello?
911 Operator
Hi, this is the Sheriff’s Department. What’s your name?
Susan
Susan Multanen.
911 Operator
Okay, Susan. Did Deputy Myron shoot you and your husband?
Susan
Yes.
911 Operator
Okay. Where did he go?
Susan
He was Still at the house downstairs on the driveway arguing with his daughter. I don’t know if he’s still at the house because I crawled through the woods 2 houses down here.
911 Operator
Okay. Who else was in the house with him?
Susan
I was up in the apartment above the garage and he and my husband were down in the driveway.
911 Operator
Okay. What name does he go by? Does he go by “Allen”?
Susan
Allen, yes.
911 Operator
Okay. What kind of gun did he shoot you with?
Susan
Some kind of a handgun.
911 Operator
Do you know if there’s anyone else there beside your husband and Myron?
Susan
Our granddaughter was there with me.
911 Operator
What’s her name?
Susan
Kristen.
911 Operator
Is that Alan’s daughter?
Susan
Yes.
911 Operator
And she was in the house when you left?
Susan
She was up in the apartment with me and then he took her outside. So they were down in the driveway.
911 Operator
Okay. So Allen and Kristen were in the driveway the last time you saw them?
Susan
Yes.
911 Operator
They were leaving? What kind of car does he drive?
Susan
Oh, I don’t know. He has a blue car and an older Sedan.
911 Operator
What color is the older sedan?
Susan
Kind of grayish.
911 Operator
And it’s a 4-door?
Susan
I think so.
911 Operator
Okay, where were you shot at?
Susan
Like, in the lower area–
911 Operator
Well, you sound like you’re doing pretty good. Do you know where your husband was shot at?
Susan
I don’t know, but Allen told me he was dead.
911 Operator
Allen told you that he was dead? Okay. So Allen and your husband got in a confrontation in the driveway. He shot your husband in the driveway. Then, he came up to the apartment and shot you. Then, he took his daughter and went back outside.
Susan
They were out in the driveway arguing and fighting. I’m not sure where they are now.
911 Operator
Okay. But the wife is not there – the wife is in Seattle – right?
Susan
They’re at Federal Way.
911 Operator
Okay, I think we have her on the phone already. You’re doing a great job.
Susan
You got her on the phone? Okay.
911 Operator
Yeah, we have her on the phone and I’m gonna keep you on the phone. Okay. Are there any other cars that you can remember that were parked there?
Susan
Well, our own little car was there.
911 Operator
Okay, where were the keys to that?
Susan
My husband’s pocket.
911 Operator
What kind of car is it?
Susan
A Lumina.
911 Operator
Is it in the driveway?
Susan
It was. I don’t know if anybody left with it. Allen took my purse and all of my keys inside my car, so I don’t know where all of that went.
911 Operator
Okay. Allen took your purse after he shot you. How bad is your wound? Are you in a lot of pain?
Susan
Well, it’s starting to, kind of, sting here. I mean the whole body (inaudible). I had a lot of trouble breathing. I don’t know.
911 Operator
Okay. It sounds like we’re gonna have someone over there with you in just a minute. As soon as they can secure that house, we’re gonna get medical aid in there for you. Okay?
Susan
Thank you.
911 Operator
What was going on today that set Allen off like this?
Susan
Well, he was in a very sticky situation that had begun a while ago. It started out with an eating disorder and depression Yeah, the children are from their father in other words
911 Operator
Alright. Was he a drinker? Had he been drinking or anything today?
Susan
I don’t know.
911 Operator
You’re not sure. (Pause) Okay. Hi, we’re having a hard time finding your house. What is your house address?
Man 2
There’s cops here.
911 Operator
There are cops there?
Man 2
Yeah.
911 Operator
Okay, can I talk to one of them?
Man 2
Yeah, we’re good. I’m on the phone with 911. I have no idea if anybody was taken except for her. We came inside, turned off the lights, and locked the doors because we thought he might be around. Yeah, I was here the whole time. Hello?
911 Operator
Okay, I need to know if they’re ready for the fire department to come in.
Man 2
The fire department– they’re coming in.
911 Operator
The fire department is coming in right now? Okay. I’m gonna let you go. Bye bye. Fire is on the line.
Scott
Before police arrived, a friend who had been staying at the house arrived back home, not knowing what was going on. Allen kept them in the house for a period of time while police surrounded it. Eventually, he was persuaded to let his daughter and the friend leave the house, which left him barricaded inside alone. Deputies negotiated for a few hours with him. He talked about a lot of different things, including his unhappiness with his employer, the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department. The main thing he talked about was how his marriage was falling apart, and how his in-laws had been negatively influencing his wife against him. Around 10 PM, deputies near the house heard a muffled gunshot. The Tacoma police SWAT team went in and found his body along with several weapons nearby. Monty, the father-in-law, was dead at the scene. Sue was airlifted from the neighbor’s property to Seattle’s Harborview Medical Center. In spite of sounding alert on the 911 call, she too later died from her injuries.
Scott
Pendleton, South Carolina. Kiara Sullivan lived in the Edgewood Square Apartments on Cherry Street in Pendleton with her two young daughters – one was 3 years old, and the youngest was 1 year old. Leonna Wright. Also living in the apartment was Kiara’s boyfriend, Travis Jones. On a Friday night, Travis was left at home to watch the children while Chiara went out to her sister’s bachelorette party. She got back home early Saturday morning and was going to check on the children, but Travis said she didn’t need to because he had already taken care of them. According to police, the couple woke up later that morning and they noticed the front door open. They also discovered that one-year-old Leona was missing. That resulted in a lot of panic and chaos. Some of the other apartment residents came over to see what was going on. It was one of those neighbors who called 911.
911 Operator
Anderson County. 911. What’s the location of your emergency?
Woman 1
(Hidden information).
911 Operator
What’s your apartment number?
Woman 1
Somebody’s got a baby. The baby is not here.
911 Operator
No. Who’s the child’s parent? Let me speak with them.
Woman 1
Hold on. (Screaming in the background)
911 Operator
Hello?
Woman 1
Hello?
911 Operator
Ma’am, what’s going on out there?
(Crosstalk)
Woman 1
This is all I know. I just live out here. The baby cannot walk. What’s wrong with the police?
911 Operator
Sorry. No one knows how long the child’s been gone?
Woman 1
No, because she was asleep.
911 Operator
So somebody took the child?
Woman 1
Yes.
911 Operator
Do we know who took the child?
Woman 1
Nobody knows who took the child.
911 Operator
How old is the child?
Woman 1
How old is the baby, Kiara? But she can’t walk?
911 Operator
Stay on the phone. Do not hang up on me, okay? Who’s the child’s mother?
Woman 1
Kiara Sullivan. It doesn’t make any sense – that’s what I said.
911 Operator
So somebody came into the house and took the child?
Woman 1
Oh my God. Ma’am, I don’t know. All I need is the police–
911 Operator
They’re coming. I’ve already got them en route to you, but I need to find out as much information from you as I can. Okay?
Woman 2
This is someone else. What do you need?
911 Operator
I need to know if somebody walked into the house while the child was asleep and took the child? Was the child awake? What was going on?
Woman 2
The parents are really not saying that. They’re just crying and hollering. I don’t know. We just stay out here. She came out and said her baby is gone. She has an older daughter – I don’t know exactly how old she is, but she looks like she’s maybe 3 – and she was up. So I don’t know exactly what happened. They’re hollering and crying. We asked her to call her baby’s dad to see if he picked the child up, but the older little girl here kept saying, “If he got the baby, he would have got the older one.” So it was just kind of confusing. I don’t know. It doesn’t make sense.
911 Operator
Well, you’ve given me more information. What apartment did they live in? What apartment is the mother living in?
Woman 2
Hold on. Let me check. Kiara, what apartment do you stay in? (Hidden information)
911 Operator
Perfect. Does she have another child?
Woman 2
Okay. Yeah. She’s about three. She’s trying to say something, but they are taking it out on her because the baby’s going. It’s like she’s nervous, so we’re trying to figure out what’s going on. Yeah, just go around knocking on doors and see if somebody took her just because she’s seen outside or something. Y’all check up on the beds every day? What I’m saying is what if she might have slipped? I don’t know. Just check.
911 Operator
Sorry. Did anybody go through the apartment yet?
Woman 2
Well, they said they’ve been checking the apartment. I just told them to check places that you won’t even think about checking. They don’t know if she fell, got hurt, and not saying anything.
911 Operator
Okay, do you know if the child was asleep or if the child was in the living room?
Woman 2
Well, ma’am, to be honest with you, basically, they should have been up with these kids. She said she was sleeping and, when she woke up, her baby was gone. We’re trying to get information out of the older one. The baby cannot walk – she only can crawl – but she’s telling somebody else now that, when she looked outside, her little sister was there and somebody might have taken them away. I have no idea.
911 Operator
So somebody saw the one-year-old in the next terrace, right?
Woman 2
This is what the other little 3 or 4– I don’t know how old she is, but this is what she’s saying. The girl’s boyfriend who is staying with her keeps yelling, “Where’s my baby?” and making the baby nervous. I don’t know who should talk to her because it’s like– they’re out here screaming and it’s not the baby’s fault.
911 Operator
Yeah. Okay.
Woman 2
I mean, I’m just trying to make it make sense because it’s not making sense to me.
911 Operator
I gotcha.
Woman 2
I mean, the police just arrived.
911 Operator
All right. Well, I appreciate you giving me far more information than that other person did. So I thank you for that. You’re welcome. All right. Thank you. Bye bye.
Woman 2
Thank you.
Scott
This began an intense search and a police investigation. At first, it was thought that perhaps the older sibling, a 3-year-old girl, had opened the front door, but investigators determined that the girl was unable to do that, and it still leaves the fact that the baby could not have walked out on her own. The search continued. Eventually, the leads started to dry up, but detectives continued to work on the case. Five years after the disappearance, an arrest was made. This is Anderson County Sheriff Chad McBride making the announcement
Anderson County Sheriff Chad McBride
This case has been passionately pursued for over five years, four of which had been under my administration. We have assumed responsibility for this case in January 2017. We’ve had several dedicated detectives that have worked on this since June 6 of 2015. Recently, this lengthy and thorough investigation yielded sufficient evidence to support the facts of the case to a magistrate to obtain warrants. With a heightened sense of urgency, deputies and detectives were able to affect the arrest of Travis Jones on July 8, 2020, Wednesday evening. He is currently at the ACDC awaiting a bond hearing.
Scott
Travis Jones, Kiara’s boyfriend at the time of the disappearance, was charged with homicide by child abuse. In addition, his older brother, Donnie Roderick Jones, was charged with being an accessory to the crime after Leonna’s death, and he was also charged with destruction or desecration of human remains. The family and everyone involved in the case were delighted with this development. However, their joy was short-lived. About 18 months later, the charges against those two suspects were dropped. A magistrate overseeing the preliminary hearing found that there was insufficient probable cause to move forward with the case. Baby Leonna went missing over 7 years ago and she has not yet been found.
Scott
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